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Virtual panel discusses the ongoing legacy of slavery and the topic of reparations

Delvina Bernard, Andrea Douglas, and Cikiah Thomas were panelists at the event billed as a pre-conference event for the 2023 Universities Studying Slavery Conference to be hosted by University of King’s College.

November 2, 2021 By Matthew Byard, Local Journalism Initiative reporter 2 Comments

Cikiah Thomas, Delvina Bernard, and Adrea Thomas participated in a 'Pre-Conference Event for 2023 Universities Studying Slavery Conference', hosted by Isaac Saney, on Monday. This photo shows a screen capture of the Zoom panel discussion with video from Thomas, Bernard, Douglas, and Saney.

On Monday, Cikiah Thomas, Delvina Bernard, and Andrea Douglas participated in a ‘Pre-Conference Event for 2023 Universities Studying Slavery Conference, which was moderated by Isaac Saney.

On Monday, speakers at a virtual panel discussion talked about reparations and the ongoing legacy of slavery from Nova Scotian and Canadian perspectives. The event was hosted by Dalhousie University, University of King’s College, and the Black Cultural Centre for Nova Scotia and was advertised as a pre-conference event for the 2023 Universities Studying Slavery Conference to be hosted by University of King’s College. Isaac Saney, director of the transition year program, moderated the three-person panel.

Delvina Bernard, the Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and Accessibility Advisor at Mount Saint Vincent University, thoughtfully laid out what makes African Nova Scotians a distinct people in our society.

“What research clearly shows us is that, unlike the Scottish, the British, the French, the Germans, and others who came here to unrightfully occupy the lands of Indigenous nations in this Canada, for people of African descent to Nova Scotia, ours was not a mission of discovery, or of expansionism, or even a quest for religious actualization, which was the case of German arrivals,” she said.

“Ours was not a case of pilgrimage freely and willing boarding ships to venture cross the Atlantic Ocean unbonded, unindentured, and unbounded. Rather, ours is a story of quest for freedom from cattle slavery and cultural genocide. Ours is a story of an escape plan that involved calculated risks, and the possibility of a brutal death at the hands of slave catchers [and] bounty hunters if all did not go as planned.”

Delvina Bernard speaks at a virtual panel on reparations and slavery

Delvina Bernard speaks at a virtual panel on reparations and slavery

Andrea Douglas, the director of the Jefferson School — African American Heritage Center in Charlottesville, Virginia, said some people believe “we’re rocking the boat,” and believe that that, in of itself, is another avenue toward social trauma and harm.

“How do we personalize this and so that people see a stake for themselves in the overall conversation about reparations?” Douglas said. “Because otherwise, even Black people are not so keen, necessarily, to discuss it.”

Cikiah Thomas, the chairperson of the international working committee of the Global African Congress, doubled down on Douglas’ comments and spoke about what he sees as some of the major difficulties in getting conversations about reparations off the ground in the first place.

“Black people don’t like to get white people upset. It’s very simple,” he said. “Black people don’t mind another Black person being angry at you, but once a white person gets angry at you, as a Black person, it’s amazing what George Lamming called the terror of the mind.”

Thomas noted that Canada “was a major slaveholding country and contributed significantly to the rape of Africa and the degradation and dehumanization of Africans.” He said this is widely unknown both outside and within Canada itself.

“Since the 1600s Africans have lived in every region of the country,” he said. “Today, African Canadians reside mainly in Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, and tend to favour the urban centre. In these centres, African Canadians are at the bottom of the economic and social ladder, irrespective of the length of time over which they have resided in various areas.”

Thomas talked about how many Black Canadians continue to be subjected to discrimination, negative profile, and “denial of access and opportunity essential for health and advancement.” As a result, he said many Black Canadians in urban centres such as Halifax endure the “continued crisis” characterized by low income, housing issues and homelessness, exclusion from higher education, high rates of physical and mental health issues, political marginalization, overrepresentation in the prison system, and more.

Additionally, Thomas said that many of these factors not only intersect but are intergenerational.

“When we speak about reparations and we talk about Canada, it’s a strange phenomenon. And therefore, I think it’s embedded upon us to set the record straight,” said Thomas.

A screenshot of Cikiah Thomas who spoke at a virtual panel on reparations and slavery. Thomas is wearing glasses and a printed shirt.

Cikiah Thomas speaks at a virtual panel on reparations and slavery

Bernard went on to talk about how the legacy of slavery and discrimination has continued effects that we have a hard time wrapping our heads around in a modern context. She spoke about reports that continue to show the wealth gap between Black and white people in Canada, as well as reports that show the impact of intergenerational wealth and how it maintains and even widens that gap.

“Sadly, the majority, I think, of Black Canadians accept the current economic system at face value,” Bernard said. “And we don’t question, in some ways, the economic status quo, even though we’re not the benefactors.”

“These Eurocentric models of development are the very reason why African people in Nova Scotia and elsewhere in the world are largely living in a state of social, cultural, political, and economic underdevelopment.”

“So, as we in Canada set out to explore the issues of reparations and economics, we must be prepared to put not only slavery on trial, we must be prepared to put capitalism on trial,” she continued. “We must make the case that our Canadian capitalist economy is not working for Black Canadians and therefore has to answer for itself.”

Monday marked the second week of a criminal trial for people believed to be behind the deadly ‘Unite The Right’ white supremacist rally in 2017 in Charlottesville, Virginia where Andrea Douglas lives and works. Douglas points to the 2017 rally as something that marked a shift in the thinking around the issue, or the prospect of reparations.

“Where I live, certainly the majority of the community did not understand reparations until there was an act of violence that occurred on August 12,” she said. “And that was when people were much more open to understanding that the nature of economic disparity, the nature of health disparity, the nature of educational disparities that they did not have any understanding of.”

“This conversation only became consumable within this space of undeniable truth,” she said. “[We need] to continue to find a way to engage in the personal experience in order to make it real in that way, and remove this sort of distance of history from it.”

A screenshot of a Zoom panel discussion where Andrea Douglas spoke on reparations and slavery.. Douglas is wearing glasses and a white sweater.

Andrea Douglas speaks at a virtual panel on reparations and slavery

The panel discussion also took place on the eve of the gubernatorial election in Virginia where Douglas lives and works. Douglas talked about how the Republican nominee being elected could have a negative impact on the issue of reparations where the Republican candidate is in favour of removing what’s known as critical race theory — what she says essentially amounts to African American History, particularly as it relates to slavery — from public schools.

In addition to talking about health disparities for Blacks and how many of them were exposed by the COVID pandemic, one of the audience questions for the panel centered around allyship — with white people and other groups. Bernard cautioned about the importance for Black people to be thoughtful and selective when seeking allyship.

“When it comes to allies, we ought to at least be very mindful about our history in terms of when we’ve engaged others in our go-forward plans,” she said. “We know that during the Civil Rights movement, many others who were also part of their own rights revolutions — whether it was women’s issues, whether it was anti-war movement, whether it was a struggle for gender equality, LGTBQ+ rights, etc. — many of these other marginalized communities joined forces with people of African descent during civil rights time to promote our issues.”

“But we know that as they elevated their conditions, people went off into their siloes, into their own rights revolutions, and we got left behind. … So I would say we need to learn from that history and be very selective about when and where others enter into our strategy toward reparatory justice so that it doesn’t get taken over. Or forgotten, or neglected.”

The discussion preceded a keynote address later in the evening by Professor Sir Hilary Beckles, vice-chancellor of the University of the West Indies. Videos recordings of both the discussion and keynote will be available at a later date.


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Filed Under: Black Nova Scotia, Featured Tagged With: African Canadians, African Nova Scotians, allyship, Andrea Douglas, Black Canadians, Black Cultural Centre of Nova Scotia, Black Nova Scotians, Cikiah Thomas, critical race theory, Dalhousie University, Delvina Bernard, Global African Congress, Isaac Saney, Jefferson School — African American Heritage Center, Mount Saint Vincent, reparations, Sir Hilary Beckles, slavery, Unite the Right, University of King's College, Virginia

About Matthew Byard, Local Journalism Initiative reporter

Matthew Byard is a graduate of the Radio Television Journalism Program at NSCC. He has a passion for telling stories that pertain to or are of interest to the Black community. Matthew Byard's reporting is funded by the Canadian government through its Local Journalism Initiative. email: [email protected]

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  1. davidmorash says

    November 3, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    That sounds really interesting. Was this session recorded and is it available anywhere? I checked the various links I could find, but couldn’t find anything.

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    • Iris says

      November 3, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      Hi David, perhaps this person could help:
      Elizabeth.grant (at) ukings.ca

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